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possibly count military spending in iraq and afghanistan. what they need to look at specifically is with the promise of doing tax reform in the fall through december what is the guaranteed tax reform gets done and there is new revenue. you eluded to it. republicans say if democrats don't keep up their end of the bargain we get rid of president obama's individual mandate. democrats say we get rid of the bush tax kults 250 or above. they're working on the trigger mechanism. it's going to take many differentists and turns. it's looking like wednesday is the closest thing we've heard all along in this process that a firm deadline needed to work out the compromise. >> luke, some exclosive issues in that mix. this is going to be a really interesting negotiation to follow. >> a long way to go, andrea. there's still a long way to go. next week's the real crunch time. we'll have a fun weekend. >> thank you, luke up up on the hill for us. senator kent conrad chairs the budget committee and is a member of the gang of six and joins me now senator, your
possibly count military spending in iraq and afghanistan. what they need to look at specifically is with the promise of doing tax reform in the fall through december what is the guaranteed tax reform gets done and there is new revenue. you eluded to it. republicans say if democrats don't keep up their end of the bargain we get rid of president obama's individual mandate. democrats say we get rid of the bush tax kults 250 or above. they're working on the trigger mechanism. it's going to take...
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half a world away in afghanistan, u.s. soldiers today, meeting with their chief, chairman of the joint chiefs mike mullen, asked, will we get paid? and he was forced to say, i simply don't know. but beyond that, america's international friends and, indeed, its friendemies, are concerned. they say, it is damaging. they call it irresponsible, what's happening in washington. especially china, which holds the most u.s. debtbt. it's calling for a resolution to this. and a key investment manager says to me, that the rest of the world is stunned, bewildered, more than a little worried. and that the damage has already being done. it's already more than a flesh wound. >> always fun to hear the word friendemy on the evening news. christiane, let me just pick up on the last thing you said there. do you really think that even if a deal is done and they beat the clock, that real damage has been done in a lasting way? >> well, look. this is what people there are saying. that the level of thth acrimony, the level of the paralysis, the pa
half a world away in afghanistan, u.s. soldiers today, meeting with their chief, chairman of the joint chiefs mike mullen, asked, will we get paid? and he was forced to say, i simply don't know. but beyond that, america's international friends and, indeed, its friendemies, are concerned. they say, it is damaging. they call it irresponsible, what's happening in washington. especially china, which holds the most u.s. debtbt. it's calling for a resolution to this. and a key investment manager says...
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"the wars of afghanistan." it is definitive work and fascinating to understand the region that is so critical to our national security. thank you very much to jane harmon, nine term congresswoman, how select intelligence committee and the ceo of the woodrow wilson international center for scholars. >>> coming up, secretary clinton lashes out at syria after pro government forces mob the u.s. embassy. we're on the scene in damascus next. >> u.s. officials slammed the syrian regime today as tension between the countries reaches a new high. secretary of state hillary clinton had her strongest criticism of president assad yet. >> president assad is not indispensable and we have nothing invested in him remaining in power. our goal is to see that the will of the syrian people for a democratic transformation occurs. >> this, after protesters attacked the u.s. embassy in syria. arwa damon is in damascus and joins us with the latest. arwa, secretary of state clintden said we really have no interest in assad. we want the
"the wars of afghanistan." it is definitive work and fascinating to understand the region that is so critical to our national security. thank you very much to jane harmon, nine term congresswoman, how select intelligence committee and the ceo of the woodrow wilson international center for scholars. >>> coming up, secretary clinton lashes out at syria after pro government forces mob the u.s. embassy. we're on the scene in damascus next. >> u.s. officials slammed the...
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. >> our soldiers in afghanistan repeatedly asked admiral mullen yesterday, will we get paid? will our families get your checks? shame on the republicans for making that happen. in battle, when you accidentally shoot your own, it's called friendly fire. when you deliberately shoot your own it's called fraging. republicans stop fraging the american economy and american people. >> luke russert is live on the capitol hill with the latest. we have the senate and house now working hard what's happening? >> right now as you saw, richard, there is a spirited debate on the house floor about harry reid's bill. speaker boehner taking an interesting step. the house will, in fact, vote down harry reid's proposal to raise the nation's debt limit. interesting because harry reid says it is still not a finished product. speaker boehner and eric cantor taking a symbolic step showing the harry reid proposal has nowhere of going in the house. that should go about 2:30 p.m. mitch mcconnell and harry reid spoke on the senate floor back and forth. mitch mcconnell saying in order for there to be a c
. >> our soldiers in afghanistan repeatedly asked admiral mullen yesterday, will we get paid? will our families get your checks? shame on the republicans for making that happen. in battle, when you accidentally shoot your own, it's called friendly fire. when you deliberately shoot your own it's called fraging. republicans stop fraging the american economy and american people. >> luke russert is live on the capitol hill with the latest. we have the senate and house now working hard...
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he's been a key voice on everything from the thdrawal in afghanistan to u.s. relationships with china. the los angeles angels of anaheim has written apart from the firs family there may b no one who spends more time than donilon. as the u.s. faces economic challenges at home and rapid changes abroad with an arab spring, the white houshas made its mission to restore american prestige and influence and power around the world. i'm pleased t have tom donilon at this table for the first time welcome. >> thank you, charlie, great to be here. good to see you. >> rose: there's so much to talk about in limited time. we could spend 30 minutes just talking about your biography and your friendship with warren christopher, the clinton administration, all of that. you combine policy and politics in earlier careers and now it's the focus of the united states and its relationship with the world. how do you view the mission? because you said you wanted to restore america's credibility, its influence, its respect, and its power. >> well, i think that's exactly right, and that i
he's been a key voice on everything from the thdrawal in afghanistan to u.s. relationships with china. the los angeles angels of anaheim has written apart from the firs family there may b no one who spends more time than donilon. as the u.s. faces economic challenges at home and rapid changes abroad with an arab spring, the white houshas made its mission to restore american prestige and influence and power around the world. i'm pleased t have tom donilon at this table for the first time...
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you have been to afghanistan. this was your sixth tour. and you had two tours in iraq. >> actually, it was my fifth tour. i've been back since. >> jon: you've been back to afghanistan for another tour since you were wounded? >> yes. >> jon: you're luke skywalker. that's who you are. that's what this is. [cheering and applause] that's who you are. that's unbelievable. all right. so now you have been wounded in both legs. you've got... these are younger fellas. they're looking to you for leadership. are you still functioning in a capacity in that moment? >> yes. >> jon: how is that possible? is it training? is it just there's a certain something in you that wouldn't give up? >> it's training and it's the fact that we're all brothers out there, and you wouldn't... just like i wouldn't give up on one of my children, i wouldn't give up on my brothers. and that's this way i looked at it out there. and the way a bird takes care of it young one, feeds them until they can grow and hopes that they become good leaders. >> jon: right. >> it's just men
you have been to afghanistan. this was your sixth tour. and you had two tours in iraq. >> actually, it was my fifth tour. i've been back since. >> jon: you've been back to afghanistan for another tour since you were wounded? >> yes. >> jon: you're luke skywalker. that's who you are. that's what this is. [cheering and applause] that's who you are. that's unbelievable. all right. so now you have been wounded in both legs. you've got... these are younger fellas. they're...
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. >>> three senators in afghanistan tonight john mccain and lindsey graham and joe lieberman. the senators say they're concerned the plans will undermine afghan morale and make it more difficult to beat back taliban forces. >> i know there is some concern among the afghans about the pace of the beginning of withdrawal of our surge troops. but we have tried to reassure everyone that the commitment that america has made, and the international community has made, to a free and independent afghanistan is strong and steadfast and lasting. >> senator mccain said some areas of afghanistan including kandahar, are definitely safer. >>> the news edge is everywhere at 11:00. a fire at a church sends one firefighter to the hospital and causes thousands of dollars in damage. the firefighter was hurt while batting the flames. flames were seen shooting through the roof. authorities believe it was caused by a lightning strike. >>> a fire gutted a straussberg, virginia church. happened saturday evening. parishers held services on the building's front lawn today. the outside of the building was
. >>> three senators in afghanistan tonight john mccain and lindsey graham and joe lieberman. the senators say they're concerned the plans will undermine afghan morale and make it more difficult to beat back taliban forces. >> i know there is some concern among the afghans about the pace of the beginning of withdrawal of our surge troops. but we have tried to reassure everyone that the commitment that america has made, and the international community has made, to a free and...
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. >> it's a story about afghanistan but it's about one woman and one family in afghanistan so it really personalizes some of the challenges of that country. it's called the dressmakers of speed and tells the story of >> guest: it tells the story of a young woman who is supposed to be a teacher and ended up becoming an entrepreneur because there were so tough on so many people and she was left as the head of a family with five brothers and sisters counting on her and she became an entrepreneur and a dressmakers because there was nothing else women were to able to do. >> host: the interesting thing is she had never sewn before and became a successful dressmaker. >> guest: in the course of spending years going back and forth in afghanistan writing the book which i really think celebrates the unsung heroines whose stories are never told during the war. what i learned is that she realized pretty quickly on that she was actually sort of lousy seamstress but she was a really good businesswoman, and the seamstresses kept coming to her house, the young and girls who knew the families were counti
. >> it's a story about afghanistan but it's about one woman and one family in afghanistan so it really personalizes some of the challenges of that country. it's called the dressmakers of speed and tells the story of >> guest: it tells the story of a young woman who is supposed to be a teacher and ended up becoming an entrepreneur because there were so tough on so many people and she was left as the head of a family with five brothers and sisters counting on her and she became an...
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( laughter ) >> look, in afghanistan, we helped drive the soviets out of there. we pulled out of there in 89, 90 91. we know what happened in the next 10 years, the people in expwafg in terms of 9/11. i don't think we want to go through that again. if that means we have to keep 100,000 troops there forever, it's a war that was underresourced under president bush. president obama did the right thing, i think, in surging there and i think we can draw down as long as we do so responsibly. it's not easy, though, and there's no one solution for each part of the world, obviously. but we can't turn our backs on the world, jon. i know you would like to. i don't want to fight a strawman here. >> jon: i'm very fond of the world. ( laughter ) i don't want people to get hurt-- >> and the world is very fond of you. >> jon: right now, the military and military families are bearing an overwhelming weight of these wars, and it's not fair what they're going through, and i just feel like we have to come up way whole new strategy, that's all. ( applause ) i'm always happy to have y
( laughter ) >> look, in afghanistan, we helped drive the soviets out of there. we pulled out of there in 89, 90 91. we know what happened in the next 10 years, the people in expwafg in terms of 9/11. i don't think we want to go through that again. if that means we have to keep 100,000 troops there forever, it's a war that was underresourced under president bush. president obama did the right thing, i think, in surging there and i think we can draw down as long as we do so responsibly....
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army in afghanistan. it is his fourth visit to the country. he spent time with the 4th airbourne, patrolling in remote areas and engaging the security situation. obama announced a plan to bring 10,000 troops home from afghanistan by the end of the year. >> it depends on where you are. my experience is in the east. i have a little experience in the south. in the south, there is a lot of open combat. this is the headquarters of the taliban. >> in the east the violence depends on where you are. these to have strong relationships with kabul, with a lot of traffic. today, these are what i call, bombing galleries, where the coalition troops and a large coalition presence is trying very hard to like this town in order to protect this. but every step that they take, they are threatened. thousands every year, that are killing hundreds of native troops, and many times the number of afghans. as we move closer to the border, and you had se, the threat will change. this is not so much ied's because there is less vehicle traffic. the coalition soldiers and
army in afghanistan. it is his fourth visit to the country. he spent time with the 4th airbourne, patrolling in remote areas and engaging the security situation. obama announced a plan to bring 10,000 troops home from afghanistan by the end of the year. >> it depends on where you are. my experience is in the east. i have a little experience in the south. in the south, there is a lot of open combat. this is the headquarters of the taliban. >> in the east the violence depends on where...
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president obama's surge in afghanistan worked pretty well. everyone agreed we were going to draw down. i'm worried he's drawing down too fast and abruptly. i wish he followed general petraeus' recommendation but everybody agrees we'll be out of the combat portion of it by 2014. >> jon: as a country, do you feel like this is proof positive that our whole mentality about fighting the war on terror has been wrong for 10 years? would you say now-- would you-- would you stand and face the camera and say-- and-- and-- button your coat-- and say, oh, my god. i had this so completely wrong, guys. >> no. >> jon: bout butt how can-- >> the whole country has been engaged in this. and i think on the whole doing the right thing. look, a war-- a world in which americans have to fight and have to be, in effect, the kind of world policemen is a difficult world for us. god knows we all hate to see young american men and women go over there and fight and get wounded and die. on the other hand, a world in which we don't do that is a more dangerous world. >> jon
president obama's surge in afghanistan worked pretty well. everyone agreed we were going to draw down. i'm worried he's drawing down too fast and abruptly. i wish he followed general petraeus' recommendation but everybody agrees we'll be out of the combat portion of it by 2014. >> jon: as a country, do you feel like this is proof positive that our whole mentality about fighting the war on terror has been wrong for 10 years? would you say now-- would you-- would you stand and face the...
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i think that's what is happening in afghanistan now. there's something of this in the iraq in the awakening of the sunnies to the rest of the country, the idea that this is a tribal battle, but the americans turned out to be the strongest tribe. i think to some degree that's not being enthrusted upon the various almosts and others there afghanistan, but, of course, that's in the middle of a huge complex of building, helping, developing projects that's going on that really are designed to be one big branch stray teemingic thing wherever you look in the middle east, and that is to shore up the strength, the responsiveness of the state wherever they look, whether with iraq or iraq today or afghanistan to prevent pakistan from continuing to sell the idea of a two-state solution for israel and palestine are all within the concept of the international space system. that is, we don't have strong systems and things are going in the wrong direction. >> host: what i see on the ground when i travel often to afghanistan is to be honest with all the
i think that's what is happening in afghanistan now. there's something of this in the iraq in the awakening of the sunnies to the rest of the country, the idea that this is a tribal battle, but the americans turned out to be the strongest tribe. i think to some degree that's not being enthrusted upon the various almosts and others there afghanistan, but, of course, that's in the middle of a huge complex of building, helping, developing projects that's going on that really are designed to be one...
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is anyone safe in afghanistan? really safe? >> well, not... we can't say that anyone is safe in this country. >> reporter: mar rown mir runs the afghan center for policy studies. >> they have decided not to face the u.s. military, instead they have focused on terrorist attacks on civilians, government, institutions. >> reporter: in two suicide attacks the taliban unleashed a surprising new weapon that allowed them to get past police and security-- bombs hidden in turbans. there are checkpoints all across kabul. it's common to pull people out of vehicles, to frisk them and search the vehicles themselves but as you can see, it's incredibly uncommon to search under a turban. to remove a turban in public would be considered an insult. it was an explosive-laden turban that killed the kandahar mayor yesterday. and just last week, koofi herself was invited to a gathering where two people were killed. have you changed any way that you go about life because of these threats? >> i did a little bit. but, you know, when it comes to assassination and plann
is anyone safe in afghanistan? really safe? >> well, not... we can't say that anyone is safe in this country. >> reporter: mar rown mir runs the afghan center for policy studies. >> they have decided not to face the u.s. military, instead they have focused on terrorist attacks on civilians, government, institutions. >> reporter: in two suicide attacks the taliban unleashed a surprising new weapon that allowed them to get past police and security-- bombs hidden in...
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take our enemies from the stone-age villages in afghanistan, fly them halfway across the world and drop them into an extra governmental space, neither american nor the battlefield. herein using unchecked executive power in an act of blistering self-critical texturalization, not to mention some of those guys look like they got wrapped up by cristo. so i say, forget marine abromovich, forget lori anderson, the greatest performance artists of our generation are these two guys. we'll be right back. [applause] is this a good deal? i don't even know anymore. [ tapping ] well, know this -- for a good deal on car insurance, progressive snapshot uses this to track my good driving habits. the better i drive, the more i save. it's crystal-clear savings and only progressive has it. nice. this has been a public savings announcement. out there with a better way. now, that's progressive. >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. my guest tonight is a pulitzer prize winning journalist who recently admitted he's an illegal immigrant, so i will pay him half of the nothing i pay my guests. please welcome jose
take our enemies from the stone-age villages in afghanistan, fly them halfway across the world and drop them into an extra governmental space, neither american nor the battlefield. herein using unchecked executive power in an act of blistering self-critical texturalization, not to mention some of those guys look like they got wrapped up by cristo. so i say, forget marine abromovich, forget lori anderson, the greatest performance artists of our generation are these two guys. we'll be right back....
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i spent some time in afghanistan. i am hopeful that either one of you will test us here at not acknowledge that bribes have been an essential part of us doing business in afghanistan, regardless of what we are doing. what can you tell the committee about bribes in the bribes that have been paid at various places and levels, whether it is under the aegis of security or other services that are needed by local folks that are used to getting their piece of the pie? >> i can tell you, we do not have any part of that whatsoever. we have a very strict company policy against bribes, and we'd just do not participate in that. on several locations, it costs us delays. we have had to suffer because we did not agree to play that game. but we really do not. >> mr. walker? >> we have seen no evidence of our security personnel providing bribes. the casualties that we're taking would indicate that that is not something that we sponsor or that our security provides. >> i assume as the security costs went way up, the casualties went dow
i spent some time in afghanistan. i am hopeful that either one of you will test us here at not acknowledge that bribes have been an essential part of us doing business in afghanistan, regardless of what we are doing. what can you tell the committee about bribes in the bribes that have been paid at various places and levels, whether it is under the aegis of security or other services that are needed by local folks that are used to getting their piece of the pie? >> i can tell you, we do...
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it is a president who made decisions with respect to afghanistan. in fact we were under resourced and didn't str strategy and direction and tripled the number of troops there and now we are seeing in a position to take down the numbers. it is a president who has had the united states in the lead in terms of counterterrorism. it is a president who, in europe, for example, we had a summit last november. where the president led the effort on missile defense, on getting a common way forward in afghanistan, on a new concept for europe and alternate work there. it is a president who took the lead on taking the g-20 and making it the premier and principle global financial management agency in the world. time after time i have seen the president come in the situation room and i have been in there hundreds of times and sit down and make these kinds of decisions where american is leading and again the entire effort here is to have america restore its influence and power and authority in the world. of course, i also had the privilege of working closely with th
it is a president who made decisions with respect to afghanistan. in fact we were under resourced and didn't str strategy and direction and tripled the number of troops there and now we are seeing in a position to take down the numbers. it is a president who has had the united states in the lead in terms of counterterrorism. it is a president who, in europe, for example, we had a summit last november. where the president led the effort on missile defense, on getting a common way forward in...
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today harry reid counting savings in his plan from our drawdown in iraq and afghanistan. that sounds good. banking and expected trillion dollars that won't be spent when we withdraw from iraq and afghanistan. the only number crunchers say think can get that is with withdrawals. the plan is raising broader questions about our role in the middle east. the future in the region, and every president's propensity to proclaim their desire to get us out of the middle east while escalating and investing war in oil-richç monarchies that we depend on or energy resources. our specialist today, an award-winning journalist who spent four decades coving terrorism, turmoil and most recently the drive for democracy in the islamic world. her new book "rock the casbah" documenting you new counterjihad. we welcome you to the conversation. tell wlaus a countergee shaud? >> the most important wave of empowerment in the early 21st century. we soo it play out in the uprising across the arab world but also happen kind of culture change, ridiculing extremists. plays out among playwrighting and p
today harry reid counting savings in his plan from our drawdown in iraq and afghanistan. that sounds good. banking and expected trillion dollars that won't be spent when we withdraw from iraq and afghanistan. the only number crunchers say think can get that is with withdrawals. the plan is raising broader questions about our role in the middle east. the future in the region, and every president's propensity to proclaim their desire to get us out of the middle east while escalating and investing...
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back to afghanistan, perception is reality. the difference between transitioning to afghan control in a reasoned way and withdrawalling from the fight is american is important. the perception i am finding on the ground that the announcement of the president is more of a withdrawn than transition. that has to be corrected or it could jeopardize the whole operations. remember what iran is up to. remember what syria is up to. remember what the taliban and our al-qaeda want. they want to dominate this region, to destroy what we're fighting for. which is basic freedom. we are in a titanic struggle with unsave sorry characters -- unsavory characters. the outcome does matter to us. if we win and help the people, we're all safer. if the people fight back in the region are overtaken by the forces we'll all pay a price. a lot is at stake. >> i agree, and i just want to add on the fourth of july weekend, we're here because we were attacked from here on 9/11. and if we don't succeed here, and the taliban comes back in to power, we'll be at
back to afghanistan, perception is reality. the difference between transitioning to afghan control in a reasoned way and withdrawalling from the fight is american is important. the perception i am finding on the ground that the announcement of the president is more of a withdrawn than transition. that has to be corrected or it could jeopardize the whole operations. remember what iran is up to. remember what syria is up to. remember what the taliban and our al-qaeda want. they want to dominate...
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search wars from afghanistan by the end of the summer in 2012. these reductions are part of an ongoing process of transitioning increasing responsibility for afghanistan security, the afghan security forces, which by 2014 would have leader was on stability for security throughout the country. the chorus which the company says provides a strategy for success in afghanistan. the afghan security forces have increased by almost 100,000 since the president announced the surge in december december 2009.afghan army will expand by another 70,000 security forces by the time all of the u.s. surge forces are brought home by september of 2012. the growing capabilities of the afghan security forces provide the afghan people would want melter of afghan elders have asked eunice and told me that they want the most, which is the ability to secure their own country themselves. having ask you forces in the lead puts the lie to the taliban propaganda that international forces are there to occupy afghanistan. the afghans taken over their own security is the key to th
search wars from afghanistan by the end of the summer in 2012. these reductions are part of an ongoing process of transitioning increasing responsibility for afghanistan security, the afghan security forces, which by 2014 would have leader was on stability for security throughout the country. the chorus which the company says provides a strategy for success in afghanistan. the afghan security forces have increased by almost 100,000 since the president announced the surge in december december...
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. >>> the war in afghanistan continues to be a source of debate from the white house toe the republican lawmakers. during a trip to afghanistan to meet with troops on the 4th of july, john mccain and lindsey graham questioned the decision to move troops from the war stone. >> some supporters are now on the possession. >> reporter: key senators are raising doubts. >> it's an unnecessary risk. >> i worry it may have undercut the momentum. i hope i'm wrong. >> reporter: john mccain and lindsey graham said it was risky saying it could put the american troops in jeopardy. the plan calls for pulling out 10,000 troops by the end of this year with another 23,000 gone by next summer. >> i hope it will work out. it is certainly depriving us of the necessary troops we need for the second fighting season. >> reporter: the obama administration is standing by the plan saying success is on the ground, especially with the stilling of osama bin laden. >> al qaeda is under more pressure than at any time since 9/11. >> reporter: still this raid shows insurgents will not go quietly. >> if we don't succeed
. >>> the war in afghanistan continues to be a source of debate from the white house toe the republican lawmakers. during a trip to afghanistan to meet with troops on the 4th of july, john mccain and lindsey graham questioned the decision to move troops from the war stone. >> some supporters are now on the possession. >> reporter: key senators are raising doubts. >> it's an unnecessary risk. >> i worry it may have undercut the momentum. i hope i'm wrong....
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i think that's what's going on in afghanistan now. there was something in iraq in the awakening of the sunnis to the rest of the country, the idea that this is a tribal battle but the americans are not going to be the strongest try. i think that is something that is now being impressed upon the various elements, the taliban and others in afghanistan. but, of course, that is in the middle of a huge complex, building, helping, developing projects that really is designed to one big grand strategic thing. were every look in the middle east, and that is to shore up the strength, the responsiveness of the state. wherever we are looking whether it is with iraq or iran today, or afghanistan, to prevent pakistan from continuing to fail. the idea of a two-state solution for israel and palestine, and they are all within the concept of this international state. that is, we don't have strong response of state. things are going in the wrong direction. >> host: what i see on the ground, and i travel often to afghanistan, is to be honest, with all th
i think that's what's going on in afghanistan now. there was something in iraq in the awakening of the sunnis to the rest of the country, the idea that this is a tribal battle but the americans are not going to be the strongest try. i think that is something that is now being impressed upon the various elements, the taliban and others in afghanistan. but, of course, that is in the middle of a huge complex, building, helping, developing projects that really is designed to one big grand strategic...
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and i think that's what's happening in afghanistan now. there's something of this in the -- in iraq in the awakening of the sunnis to the west of the country, the idea that this was a tribal battle but the americans turned out to be the strongest tribe and that's something that's being defined by the others and, of course, that is in the middle of a huge complex of building helping and developing projects that's going on that's really designed to do one big grand strategic thing that wherever you look in the middle east and that is to shore up the strength, the responsiveness of the state wherever we're looking, whether we're iraq or iran today or afghanistan to prevent pakistan from beginning to sell the idea of a two-state solution and they're all within this september of an international state system and we're going in the wrong direction. >> what i see on the ground and i travel often to afghanistan is to be honest with all the power of the u.s. military, you have an incredibly competent military but in the end that's not enough to sub
and i think that's what's happening in afghanistan now. there's something of this in the -- in iraq in the awakening of the sunnis to the west of the country, the idea that this was a tribal battle but the americans turned out to be the strongest tribe and that's something that's being defined by the others and, of course, that is in the middle of a huge complex of building helping and developing projects that's going on that's really designed to do one big grand strategic thing that wherever...
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government would then afghanistan. -- within afghanistan. they are overseen eventually by the undersecretary for defense. >> i want to know who was in charge of the plan. so when you decide we're going to spend $500 million, $400 million -- i guess that is another question. how much is $17 billion, much of it will come from defense and, to that will come from state? >> i can speak for u.s. aid. i believe the request for u.s. aid assistance is around the $3 billion level. >> the president is asking for $17 billion in 2012 for reconstruction. does anybody here know how much of that is going to be under control of the defense department and a much is going to be under control of the state department? >> again, i can say $3 billion from u.s. aid, and possibly another $1 billion from the state department. but i cannot speak to the rest. >> is that from the defense department, mr. sedney? >> the department of defense budget and the subcommittee has funding for operations in afghanistan which include funding for the afghan security forces. about $1
government would then afghanistan. -- within afghanistan. they are overseen eventually by the undersecretary for defense. >> i want to know who was in charge of the plan. so when you decide we're going to spend $500 million, $400 million -- i guess that is another question. how much is $17 billion, much of it will come from defense and, to that will come from state? >> i can speak for u.s. aid. i believe the request for u.s. aid assistance is around the $3 billion level. >>...
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a very forthright statement but one that does go against the grain, and i would ask you to forget afghanistan today and assess whether you think that approach of the enemy fighters is going to lead to something that can be called a military solution. >> guest: yes i do but i'm not saying the military solution is the only sort of resolution that matters. there has to be that a military solution. there has to be the position of the mind in the enemy you're going to get killed if you go up against the americans. there was something of this in iraq in the awakening to the rest of the country the idea this is a tribal battle but they turn out to be. i think it is now being impress upon the various elements of the taliban and others. but of course in the conflict of building, helping, developing projects going on designed to do one big strategic thing wherever you look in the middle east and that is to shore up the strength and responsiveness of the state's wherever we look whether it's iraq or afghanistan to prevent pakistan from continuing to fail, the idea of the two-stage solution for israel an
a very forthright statement but one that does go against the grain, and i would ask you to forget afghanistan today and assess whether you think that approach of the enemy fighters is going to lead to something that can be called a military solution. >> guest: yes i do but i'm not saying the military solution is the only sort of resolution that matters. there has to be that a military solution. there has to be the position of the mind in the enemy you're going to get killed if you go up...
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in afghanistan. um, can you talk a little bit about what pakistan's assessment is of that process now, not only the core group process, but reconciliation in general, reports of united states meetings with taliban officials? and, also, what pakistan can bring to the table. pakistan has talked frequently about needing to have a seat at the table. what do you bring to the table? the americans have said you need to, you need to, um, either sever your relationship, for example, with the haqqani network or bring them into this, into this process. what can pakistan do in order to make this process work better? >> first of all, we support a reconciliation in afghanistan because we understand that wars, essentially, always end through some kind of reconciliation and talks anyway. so the reconciliation process in afghanistan has to be led by the afghans. it's their country. and to bring to an end the internal conflict in afghanistan that started after the departure of the soviets way back, '89 the soviets wen
in afghanistan. um, can you talk a little bit about what pakistan's assessment is of that process now, not only the core group process, but reconciliation in general, reports of united states meetings with taliban officials? and, also, what pakistan can bring to the table. pakistan has talked frequently about needing to have a seat at the table. what do you bring to the table? the americans have said you need to, you need to, um, either sever your relationship, for example, with the haqqani...
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we have the war in iraq, muddled ending, war in afghanistan, mudd muddled. guns are not going to solve this problem. the days of the marshall plan, the idea we're going to poor hundreds or millions of dollars. this is a g to g movement, a generation to generation movement, realizing there's change there. we'll have to engage on a different level. >> you think what is going on here, the arab world is much kag up with the rest of the world? it's joining the modern world? >> i think that there's a lot of evidence that this is the beginning of that process. i have, ever since 9/11 been in the middle of this conversation about can we get along? in every one of those conversations people say where are the muslim moderates? i don't hear them. here they are. this is a group of people standing up. it doesn't say the fundamentalists have gone away. clearly they have not. they're in color of iran and hezbollah and hamas and the wahhabis are still out there. what we're seeing for the first time is the rise of this other story. and it's going to give people a clear choic
we have the war in iraq, muddled ending, war in afghanistan, mudd muddled. guns are not going to solve this problem. the days of the marshall plan, the idea we're going to poor hundreds or millions of dollars. this is a g to g movement, a generation to generation movement, realizing there's change there. we'll have to engage on a different level. >> you think what is going on here, the arab world is much kag up with the rest of the world? it's joining the modern world? >> i think...
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we have to remember these young men in afghanistan, and to a lesser extent in iraq, but in afghanistan, they're agrarian, so when the planting and harvesting seasons come and go, the attrition rates wax and wane accordingly. the general in charge of our iranian training monitors the situation. i don't have the number, but it's in the number of 10,000 and growing in the literacy rate, the soldiers we've accrued learning english. you can develop it, and it's a little more challenging to develop the leaders to lead them. >> if you could get to my office maybe kind of what you see those trend lines look like over the last several years and where we're going in literacy atta attainment within our security force that afghanistan has, as well as the retention rate? can you do that? >> yes. the last time i touched them, the trend line on attrition was testing positive, which means we were gaining control of it. the trend line on literacy training was also training positive, but it's a very -- you know, that is a -- an enormous slope to climb for all the reasons you suggested. but both trends a
we have to remember these young men in afghanistan, and to a lesser extent in iraq, but in afghanistan, they're agrarian, so when the planting and harvesting seasons come and go, the attrition rates wax and wane accordingly. the general in charge of our iranian training monitors the situation. i don't have the number, but it's in the number of 10,000 and growing in the literacy rate, the soldiers we've accrued learning english. you can develop it, and it's a little more challenging to develop...
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. >> let's take a look at afghanistan, as a piece of that. under bush, we had about 30,000 troops there. that was tripled during the obama administration. so two-thirds of the cost of afghanistan was put into place under obama. >> hang on, hang on, hang on, it wasn't president obama that took america into war in afghanistan. >> you asked for percentage. >> i'm talking about if you analyze the percentage of blame here, then surely you have to go back to decisions that were taken which helped collectively to create this crisis. although you keep presenting other arguments, give me a straight percentage. what percentage of blame, as we stand here today, should be apportioned to republican decision making? >> well, again, you just asked about a number and i said of the cost of the afghan war, the whole afghan war today -- >> why are you avoiding my question. >> is $20 billion. i'm trying to give you a percentage of for instance the afghan war, two-thirds of the cost there this year was put in by obama. that's one piece of the puzzle. >> but 100%
. >> let's take a look at afghanistan, as a piece of that. under bush, we had about 30,000 troops there. that was tripled during the obama administration. so two-thirds of the cost of afghanistan was put into place under obama. >> hang on, hang on, hang on, it wasn't president obama that took america into war in afghanistan. >> you asked for percentage. >> i'm talking about if you analyze the percentage of blame here, then surely you have to go back to decisions that...
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all the supply lines to afghanistan run through pakistan. >> stephen: who cares, that war is unwinnable. >> stephen: yes, but without their help, we can't keep fighting it. >> stephen: the point is, they are a nuclear power therefore we need their friendship. >> stephen: friendship, they funded the mumbai attacks much. the times square bombing was planned in pakistan. and they sold nuclear technology to iran and north korea in the '90s. >> stephen: oh, the '90s. let's stay angry about furbies an parachute pants. look, we need to give them an ultimatum. stop supporting terror or no more aid. >> stephen: easy now, buddy. this is a partnership, just like you and me. we're partners. but that doesn't mean you get to decide who my other friends are. >> stephen: i just think jill's a pitch. >> stephen: we're not having this conversation again. >> stephen: the point is, some of my other friends like to do things that you don't like to do. like skiing, or trying to kill you. >> stephen: but that has nothing to do with our friendship. >> stephen: wait, one of your friends wants to kill me? >> ste
all the supply lines to afghanistan run through pakistan. >> stephen: who cares, that war is unwinnable. >> stephen: yes, but without their help, we can't keep fighting it. >> stephen: the point is, they are a nuclear power therefore we need their friendship. >> stephen: friendship, they funded the mumbai attacks much. the times square bombing was planned in pakistan. and they sold nuclear technology to iran and north korea in the '90s. >> stephen: oh, the '90s....
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in afghanistan, a group of american soldiers took this day to reenlist. america's 235th birthday. a day to stand up and be proud, even if you're sitting down. brian mooar, nbc news, washington. >>> if you plan to celebrate the 4th here in d.c., here's the lineup for tonight. the capital 4th concert will begin at 8:00. the fireworks kick off around 9:15. we'll have a live report on that. that's coming up in our next half hour. the smithsonian metro station and most roads around the mall will be closed. so you might want to give yourself plenty of time to get there. you can also go to nbc washington.com for more details. >>> a day at the beach came to an early and abrupt halt at sandy point state park in maryland today. authorities say a young boy draund drowned after disappearing in the water. elaine reyes has more on what went wrong. >> reporter: at sandy point state park, the sights and sounds of summer are everywhere. on this july 4th holiday, there's also tragedy. >> there were some people with some earphones -- headphones, like scanning the water and everything. they had menti
in afghanistan, a group of american soldiers took this day to reenlist. america's 235th birthday. a day to stand up and be proud, even if you're sitting down. brian mooar, nbc news, washington. >>> if you plan to celebrate the 4th here in d.c., here's the lineup for tonight. the capital 4th concert will begin at 8:00. the fireworks kick off around 9:15. we'll have a live report on that. that's coming up in our next half hour. the smithsonian metro station and most roads around the mall...
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of course, earlier the half-brother was assassinated in kandahar, southern afghanistan. all of this comes, of course, as we are seeing the first u.s. troops begin to come home from the war zone. we are seeing the beginning of the turnover to afghan security control in afghanistan and tomorrow general david petraeus scheduled to give up his command to the next general coming in from the united states to command the war. things are moving very rapidly in afghanistan but the security situation certainly remains very tenuous. fred? >> barbara starr in washington, thanks so much. let's go to kabul where we find david. what are you learning about this assassination? >> reporter: >> all right. it looks like we still need to work on audio problems there. we'll try to check back in with david ariosto when we can from kabul. >>> in the meantime, on to london, rebeka brooks was taken into police custody in connection with the phone hacking and police scandal. she's the head of the newspaper and becomes the tenth murdoch employee that has been arrested in this scandal. let's go to t
of course, earlier the half-brother was assassinated in kandahar, southern afghanistan. all of this comes, of course, as we are seeing the first u.s. troops begin to come home from the war zone. we are seeing the beginning of the turnover to afghan security control in afghanistan and tomorrow general david petraeus scheduled to give up his command to the next general coming in from the united states to command the war. things are moving very rapidly in afghanistan but the security situation...
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. >> i don't think we need afghanistan and i would like us to get out of there. no one has ever won in afghanistan and dance and crow in the russian getting their ass kicked there and we are getting the same thing in our own way. >> one of the things i like about you. you are not a mean guy. we are most politically apart but we have a few laughs. you are lou grant and i am like working for you in the news room. >> you are fired. i look like donald trump. >> when you did the moore show did you discuss politics with the crew. >> may mary tyler moor moris a factor fan. >> why hedge. how old do i look? >> mary has become more conservative of late. i was most outspeaken. >> rush limbaugh calls me ted baxler. >> you learn to play it right down the wire. >> he was a brilliant actor. >> he's the funniest man i ever knew. >> nine floors up the fire escape. >> we appreciate you coming in and here and you are a honest guy and a patriot. >> i enjoy you. coming up. we sent jesse waters out to san francisco to investigate why that city would not obey federal law. >>> and we th
. >> i don't think we need afghanistan and i would like us to get out of there. no one has ever won in afghanistan and dance and crow in the russian getting their ass kicked there and we are getting the same thing in our own way. >> one of the things i like about you. you are not a mean guy. we are most politically apart but we have a few laughs. you are lou grant and i am like working for you in the news room. >> you are fired. i look like donald trump. >> when you did...
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and in afghanistan, a group of american soldiers took this day to reenlist. general david petraeus is about to become the next cia director, and was there to say goodbye and thanks. >> and america can never thank you enough. >> reporter: america's 235th birthday. a day to stand up and be proud, even if you're sitting down. brian mooar, nbc news, washington. >>> there's another celebration today at the white house. it's malia's birthday. she turned 13. >> she will celebrate tonight with hundreds of troops and their families as they attend a special barbecue and a u.s. concert on the south lawn. malia's younger sister, sasha, turned 10, last month. >>> vice president joe biden made his mark on the world of twitter today. the vp sent out his first tweet just past 11:30 this morning. it read, vp and doctor b, hope you take time to think about our troops and military families this independence day. happy july 4th from ovp, joining forces. dr. b refers to his wife jill. biden's user name is @vp, all part of an increasing focus on social media. on wednesday, preside
and in afghanistan, a group of american soldiers took this day to reenlist. general david petraeus is about to become the next cia director, and was there to say goodbye and thanks. >> and america can never thank you enough. >> reporter: america's 235th birthday. a day to stand up and be proud, even if you're sitting down. brian mooar, nbc news, washington. >>> there's another celebration today at the white house. it's malia's birthday. she turned 13. >> she will...
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in afghanistan. i was only help -- hopeful to lead a small sample of those downrange, to look them in the eye and let them know how much i appreciate what they and their families do for our country. looking forward i knew that it would be very difficult for me to express my feelings for these young men and women, in a way that would allow me to get through this speech. a personal message from me to all of the servicemen and women across the world was published and distributed in the military channel. i will just say that here -- i will think of these young warriors, the ones who fought and keep on fighting, and those who never made it back until the end of my days. and as i was contemplating this moment i thought about something becky told me in january 2005 when i was as to the first director of national intelligence. i was wrestling with this decision and i told her she could make it easier if she said she did not want to go back to washington. she said, you have to do what you have to do. this is
in afghanistan. i was only help -- hopeful to lead a small sample of those downrange, to look them in the eye and let them know how much i appreciate what they and their families do for our country. looking forward i knew that it would be very difficult for me to express my feelings for these young men and women, in a way that would allow me to get through this speech. a personal message from me to all of the servicemen and women across the world was published and distributed in the military...
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trying to you know focus on eastern afghanistan feeling that they have controlled the south there is now a vacuum who is in power who can the west rely upon no one and i've also heard and others have reported that he was responsible for perhaps starting to bring the taliban together with the united states to negotiate they killed a person who had all the information we do know that there's a power vacuum throughout all of southern afghanistan he who holds kandahar holds that country because in the one nine hundred eighty s. when i worked as a newspaper reporter in afghanistan there were negotiations between the dean the united states the soviet union pakistan pakistan does not want to watch from the sidelines when pakistan says that there should be direct negotiations between the united states and the taliban what it is also saying is that pakistan wants to be at the table also because don't forget most of your viewers know this the leadership of the taliban is not enough get to stand like al qaeda it is in pakistan it cannot operate there independently it has had institutional backi
trying to you know focus on eastern afghanistan feeling that they have controlled the south there is now a vacuum who is in power who can the west rely upon no one and i've also heard and others have reported that he was responsible for perhaps starting to bring the taliban together with the united states to negotiate they killed a person who had all the information we do know that there's a power vacuum throughout all of southern afghanistan he who holds kandahar holds that country because in...
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it would have negative effects on jobs in baghdad, kabul, kandahar, in other parts of the iraq and afghanistan. and the irony of course is that we are being told that we are in this terrible crisis, when the republicans brought out a military bill that increased the military by $17 billion, gives more money to iraq and afghanistan, and i have to say i am very nervous that the president might agree to keep troops in iraq next year, which is longer than george bush wanted to keep them there. so, yeah, i think we can in the short-term save a lot of money by bringing the troops home with no negative job impact. but to get back to your question, what mr. bernanke said correctly is, yes, over the long-term, you should have a plan for deficit reduction from both higher taxes in my judgment and spending cuts. but in the short-term, if you were to do that, you would slow down the recovery. and that's why it's a timing issue. >> in terms of what you just said there about defense cuts, and what might be possible in this congress, i feel like the things that i have heard from republicans that seem like th
it would have negative effects on jobs in baghdad, kabul, kandahar, in other parts of the iraq and afghanistan. and the irony of course is that we are being told that we are in this terrible crisis, when the republicans brought out a military bill that increased the military by $17 billion, gives more money to iraq and afghanistan, and i have to say i am very nervous that the president might agree to keep troops in iraq next year, which is longer than george bush wanted to keep them there. so,...
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interest in afghanistan. it does not want to have a hostile afghanistan at its back. and, therefore, whether it wants to or not have to take responsibility for afghanistan. the american goal is that al qaeda should not be in afghanistan, but al qaeda is in yemen, somalia and cleveland trend what the point is if you look at south asia, do you disagree with those who consider pakistan and the pakistan-afghan to really be the most dangerously unstable part of the world? >> guest: i would not quote them as dangerous and stable part of the world. i think iran is potentially more, but it's not worth having -- it is certainly, the question had to get back into shape? de- stabilizing pakistan to the point that it collapses i don't think would create the security, making it the responsibly of pakistan, you know, make it what it is the it is a more interesting outcome. but the problem is that we have to ask more fundamental question. why are we in afghanistan, what was the strategy that president obama had in mind? president bush's strategy was a more modest one upholding key a
interest in afghanistan. it does not want to have a hostile afghanistan at its back. and, therefore, whether it wants to or not have to take responsibility for afghanistan. the american goal is that al qaeda should not be in afghanistan, but al qaeda is in yemen, somalia and cleveland trend what the point is if you look at south asia, do you disagree with those who consider pakistan and the pakistan-afghan to really be the most dangerously unstable part of the world? >> guest: i would not...
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is afghanistan ready to control its own destiny? and, disturbing new information on how second-hand smoke may affect your kids. dr. isadore rosenfeld is here with his sund"sunday house calld that is next. you could save a bundle with geico's multi-policy discount. geico, saving people money on more than just car insurance. ♪ geico, saving people money on more than just car insurance. morning starts with arthritis pain... that's two pills before the first bell. [ bell rings ] it's time for recess... and more pills. afternoon art starts and so does her knee pain, that's two more pills. almost ne, but hang on... her doctor recommended aleve cause it can relieve pain all day with just two pills. this is lisa... who switched to aleve and fewer pills for a day free of pain. and get the all day pain relief oaleve in liquid gels. >> jamie: welcome back, here's the headlines we're following for you, this hour. casey anthony, a free woman. she emerged from an orlando jail 12 days after a jury acquit her the death of her two-year-old daughte
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the president's premature withdrawal from afghanistan which is clearly driven not by general petraeus but by general plouffe. not by the aims and necessities of the war but of a political campaign. this has got to send a message to our enemies which is dangerous for the united states. add this on top. the president was behind the power curve when the spring revolutions brock out throughout the mideast. now he's demonstrating how tone-deaf he is by this action today. jeer either in a war or we're not. -- >> we are either in a war or we're not. the zigzagging policy is putting the united states at a distinct disadvantage. today we saw attorney general holder's justice department is move forwarding with criminal investigations, based on the cia interrogations, in particular two detainees that happened to die in cia custody. when i read that with other criminal investigations that are ongoing of some other cia operatives that took part in some of these interrogations. this administration is fighting more aggressively our own patriots than our enemies. >> this is mystifying why the attorne
the president's premature withdrawal from afghanistan which is clearly driven not by general petraeus but by general plouffe. not by the aims and necessities of the war but of a political campaign. this has got to send a message to our enemies which is dangerous for the united states. add this on top. the president was behind the power curve when the spring revolutions brock out throughout the mideast. now he's demonstrating how tone-deaf he is by this action today. jeer either in a war or...
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but a serious upsurge in attacks in afghanistan is leading analysts questioning of nato has achieved anything during his time in the country. germany's finance ministers war that he will not bail out every troubled euro zone country and the stress that in the future similar handouts will be strictly restricted his statement echoed chancellor merkel's earlier statement that berlin would not engage in quote unconditional buying of bombs from stricken members who was interpreted by traders as germany would not back to your own definitely and in another development the i.m.f. warning france that it needs more cuts to avoid becoming the next victim of the debt crisis economics author patrick young told me paris and the problem started a long time ago. the problem is look these aren't things that have just happened suddenly i mean the french budget deficit has been in a deficit the french budget since one thousand nine hundred seventy four i mean leaves are things that have been going on for thirty or forty years it's absolutely ludicrous untruthfully governments need to stop spending and
but a serious upsurge in attacks in afghanistan is leading analysts questioning of nato has achieved anything during his time in the country. germany's finance ministers war that he will not bail out every troubled euro zone country and the stress that in the future similar handouts will be strictly restricted his statement echoed chancellor merkel's earlier statement that berlin would not engage in quote unconditional buying of bombs from stricken members who was interpreted by traders as...
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we have to remember these young men in afghanistan, and to a lesser extent in iraq, but in afghanistan, they're agrarian, so when the planting and harvesting seasons come and go, the attrition rates wax and wane accordingly. the general in charge of our iranian training monitors the situation. i don't have the number, but it's in the number of 10,000 and growing in the literacy rate, the soldiers we've accrued learning english. you can develop it, and it's a little more challenging to develop the leaders to lead them. >> if you could get to my office maybe kind of what you see those trend lines look like over the last several years and where we're going in literacy atta attainment within our security force that afghanistan has, as well as the retention rate? can you do that? >> yes. the last time i touched them, the trend line on attrition was testing positive, which means we were gaining control of it. the trend line on literacy training was also training positive, but it's a very -- you know, that is a -- an enormous slope to climb for all the reasons you suggested. but both trends a
we have to remember these young men in afghanistan, and to a lesser extent in iraq, but in afghanistan, they're agrarian, so when the planting and harvesting seasons come and go, the attrition rates wax and wane accordingly. the general in charge of our iranian training monitors the situation. i don't have the number, but it's in the number of 10,000 and growing in the literacy rate, the soldiers we've accrued learning english. you can develop it, and it's a little more challenging to develop...
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troops should be withdrawing from afghanistan do you think that the killings approve if you live the military may actually be right to want to keep nato forces on the ground longer. well you could interpret it that way but i have a feeling looking at what normally happens when you know occupying forces leave is there is a new adjustment in who's in charge and so in some ways this is pretty predictable . the alternative as you might propose it would be well american forces could stay there if that's the case then and means we're going to remain there forever and ever because at some point we must leave we've actually created in part the power vacuum so we have certainly created and abetted the corruption that goes on in afghanistan certainly. you know since we've been there you know we paid people we have facilitated whether we intended to or not we facilitated the regrowth of the opium trade lots and lots of money there so you know we haven't done afghanistan any favors ok you mentioned the power vacuum you mentioned corruption there's talk about the political situation inside afghan
troops should be withdrawing from afghanistan do you think that the killings approve if you live the military may actually be right to want to keep nato forces on the ground longer. well you could interpret it that way but i have a feeling looking at what normally happens when you know occupying forces leave is there is a new adjustment in who's in charge and so in some ways this is pretty predictable . the alternative as you might propose it would be well american forces could stay there if...
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we're watching a charade unfold here in afghanistan the afghan army the afghan national police force are never going to be able to control the country not just because there have been trained sufficiently but also because they're divided tribal we when we are gone when nato leaves they'll go back to their tribes and they'll fight each other again so the whole the whole house of cards will come down after the united states and its allies complete their their withdrawal withdraw in defeat really ultimately what we have after ten years of effort in afghanistan is a body count that's all we don't have any measure of progress against the enemy the kind of hard story the hard fact is that we went there with one mission which was to destroy the taliban and to destroy al qaeda and quite frankly we haven't killed enough of the enemy and their supporters to make any difference we instead tried to build a western democracy in a country that's conservatively islamic and deeply islamic and so we've failed to do that and the situation is going to remain violent and probably. detrimental certainly
we're watching a charade unfold here in afghanistan the afghan army the afghan national police force are never going to be able to control the country not just because there have been trained sufficiently but also because they're divided tribal we when we are gone when nato leaves they'll go back to their tribes and they'll fight each other again so the whole the whole house of cards will come down after the united states and its allies complete their their withdrawal withdraw in defeat really...